Legislature(2003 - 2004)

05/07/2003 01:32 PM Senate JUD

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         HB  86-INJUNCTIONS AGAINST  PERMITTED PROJECTS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RALPH   SEEKINS  called  the  Senate   Judiciary  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order  at 1:32  p.m. Present  were Senators                                                               
Ogan and Therriault.  The first order of business  to come before                                                               
the committee was HB 86.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. JIM  POUND, Staff to  Representative Fate, sponsor of  HB 86,                                                               
said it  would provide a  private remedy to permittees  or owners                                                               
of state permitted  projects who are the victims  of frivolous or                                                               
obstructionist type litigation. In  addition to any other penalty                                                               
or sanction otherwise  currently provided by law, it  will make a                                                               
person who  initiates or  maintains a  malicious claim  against a                                                               
state permitted  project liable  for damages  by the  lawsuit. It                                                               
specifies the type of damages  the aggrieved person would be able                                                               
to seek. The cause of action  is based on concepts established in                                                               
law for stating a claim  for unlawful civil proceedings and abuse                                                               
of process. The benefits are  that it avoids unfamiliar potential                                                               
ambiguous language and  once adopted, the courts will  be able to                                                               
draw up  an existing case law  from Alaska to help  interpret and                                                               
apply the  law. HB 86  only applies  to egregious cases  and will                                                               
not   deter   potential   litigants  from   bringing   legitimate                                                               
meritorious cases to court.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEEKINS stated  they were  considering CSSSHB  86(JUD) am,                                                               
version W.a.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OGAN asked  if there was a definition  of malicious claim                                                               
in somewhere statute.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. POUND  replied he didn't  have a specific definition,  but it                                                               
relates to various aspects of the word "malice."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Malicious, according  to Black's Law,  is characterized                                                                    
     by or involving  malice, having or done  with wicked or                                                                    
     evil,  or mischievous  intentions or  motives, wrongful                                                                    
     or done  intentionally without just cause  or excuse or                                                                    
     as a result of ill  will. That's according to the sixth                                                                    
     edition of Black's Law, 1990.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEEKINS said  more than  likely  there was  case law  that                                                               
defined malice and asked if  Senator Ogan was suggesting defining                                                               
"malice" for this section of the law.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. POUND  noted that "malicious  prosecution" has a lot  of case                                                               
law behind it that could be part of the interpretation.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH arrived at 1:40 p.m.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked if frivolous could be malicious.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. POUND answered  that a frivolous claim could  be broader than                                                               
with malice.  He thought the  Supreme Court had  actually defined                                                               
the term,  but he didn't  have a specific  case to cite.  He said                                                               
they are  targeting mostly the  types of lawsuits that  are filed                                                               
after a  permitted project has  gone through the  entire process.                                                               
These suits are often filed  by professional non-profit law firms                                                               
and  individuals who  feel  they  didn't get  a  fair deal,  even                                                               
though they were part of the entire process all the way through.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DAVID GREEN,  Executive Director,  First Amendment  Project,                                                               
said  they are  based in  Oakland, California,  and that  Senator                                                               
French  invited him  to  address the  committee  on the  proposed                                                               
statute.  The  first amendment  interest  here  is the  right  to                                                               
petition  the  government for  redress  of  grievances. The  U.S.                                                               
Supreme Court  has spent  a fair amount  of time  considering the                                                               
right to  petition the  government and  has come  up with  a very                                                               
strong threshold  requirement for someone  to be immune  from any                                                               
liability for  petitioning the  government. That  includes filing                                                               
of a  lawsuit or  administrative action.  They are  immune unless                                                               
their petitioning activity was objectively baseless.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The main  constitutional defect in  the proposed statute  is that                                                               
the Supreme  Court has very  clearly said regardless of  what the                                                               
person's motive  was in  bringing the  action, regardless  of any                                                               
bad faith  they may have had,  if the action was  not objectively                                                               
baseless, they are entitled to absolute immunity.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Objectively baseless  usually means  that no  reasonable litigant                                                               
could realistically expect to secure  favorable relief or that he                                                               
was lacking in  any probable cause to  institute the proceedings.                                                               
It's important  that the test  is objective, not  subjective. One                                                               
of the reasons  for this protection is to avoid  any infection of                                                               
the  person's subjective  motives.  This is  in recognition  that                                                               
once the  discovery process  is started, it  has a  very chilling                                                               
effect on a person exercising his first amendment rights.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The second  part of the  test is  looking at improper  purpose or                                                               
looking at  whether the person  bringing the lawsuit  was seeking                                                               
genuine relief or just exploiting the process.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The  third constitutional  requirement was  just affirmed  by the                                                               
U.S.  Supreme   Court  earlier  this  week   in  a  telemarketing                                                               
decision.  At any  time you  make provisions  for an  action that                                                               
might restrict one's first amendment  rights, the burden of proof                                                               
is on  the party bringing  that action and  it must be  clear and                                                               
convincing.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GREEN felt  that the  right  to petition  the government  is                                                               
stronger is situations  in which someone is  suing the government                                                               
himself, because they do not  believe the government is doing the                                                               
job it  was supposed to  do or has  exceeded its authority  or is                                                               
acting  outside  of its  bounds.  This  proposed statute  creates                                                               
potential  liability  for  someone  who was  actually  suing  the                                                               
government. "I believe that the  right to petition the government                                                               
should be  protected more strongly  than it is today  in ordinary                                                               
civil litigation context."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:55 p.m.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked him if  he was referring to the Professional                                                               
Real Estate Investors v. Columbia case.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREEN  replied yes this is  one of the leading  cases in this                                                               
area.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH   asked  if  the   Supreme  Court   rejected  the                                                               
subjective inquiry and relied on objective analysis.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREEN  replied yes.  The Court  was careful  to say  that not                                                               
only  was the  objective test  required it  was the  threshold of                                                               
determination.  You  couldn't  go  further  into  the  subjective                                                               
inquiry without making an objective finding first.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEEKINS asked  if it was constitutional to  award a certain                                                               
amount of damages to someone based  on a frivolous claim, but not                                                               
on a malicious claim.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREEN  replied that the  Supreme Court said the  lawsuit must                                                               
be objectively  based and only  if the litigation  is objectively                                                               
meritless,  can  the  Court  examine  the  litigant's  subjective                                                               
motivation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The fact  that it was  malicious is not  relevant until                                                                    
     you  determine  that  it  was   baseless  and  that  is                                                                    
     directly from  the Supreme Court  case. That  indeed is                                                                    
     the  argument  that  the Supreme  Court  rejected.  The                                                                    
     question  before them  was -  was the  presence of  bad                                                                    
     faith adequate and the Court said no.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEEKINS  asked if  it would  be better  to say  a frivolous                                                               
"or" malicious case.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. GREEN  replied that it  would have  to say "and",  because it                                                               
requires both and added that he was not an authority on Rule 82.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. ALVIN ANDERS  said he is representing himself and  that he is                                                               
a member of  the Libertarian party. He has the  same problem with                                                               
the bill that  other people bring up. He thought  it would have a                                                               
chilling  effect on  small businesses  and  individuals who  feel                                                               
they got  a bad shake  from the  government. It sounds  like they                                                               
are trying  to outlaw thought crime  and trying to fix  a problem                                                               
that probably exists from having  too much government already. He                                                               
said this  would stop  groups like the  Institute for  Justice, a                                                               
Libertarian  group that  fights  eminent domain  and things  like                                                               
that.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT  asked  if he  would  challenge  the  eminent                                                               
domain on  the fact  that the  acreage is not  needed or  that an                                                               
improper price was being paid.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDERS  replied that  the  Institute  for Justice  is  often                                                               
fighting eminent domain  for a part of a larger  effort that does                                                               
require some permits.  Maybe the person does feel they  got a bad                                                               
shake by  having their  property unlawfully  taken and  are using                                                               
their  meager resources  to try  to stop  the project  until they                                                               
feel justice is done.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH said  when he  was in  law school,  traffic stops                                                               
were  used by  police to  sometimes harass  a minority  that they                                                               
thought might be breaking the  law (by transporting cocaine), but                                                               
they didn't  have any real good  reason to pull them  over. There                                                               
was  a split  in the  Court of  Appeals over  whether or  not you                                                               
would ever look  inside a police officer's mind to  see if he had                                                               
a  bad reason  for pulling  someone over.  The case  got resolved                                                               
after years and years of fighting  over it - in the Supreme Court                                                               
on a 9 -  0 vote. The Court said you don't  look at the officer's                                                               
subjective   intentions.   This   keeps  you   from   having   to                                                               
psychoanalyze the police officer about  what he did in the field.                                                               
He didn't think you could  penalize someone for having a terrible                                                               
reason for bringing a good lawsuit.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He felt that  they needed to put "objectively  baseless" in there                                                               
somewhere.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATORS  Ogan and  Therriault both  said they  needed more  time                                                               
with this bill.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEEKINS said they would hold HB 86 for further discussion.                                                                

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